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Aestheticism/ Asceticism.

I was pondering on the notion of Aestheticism and the the Vows of Poverty in some religious paths chosen by or for persons of that persuasion. Matthew Arnold, John Ruskin, Ghandi, Descartes, Socrates, Alan Watts, Witgenstein, Shoppenhauer, Neitszche.
All to some extent combine a sort of mixture of Vow of Poverty, Romanticism, Aesthetisism. or aspiration towards it, all also owe a debt of sorts or have a grounding in the treasures of Eastern Mysticism ( On my very limited understanding and exposure?)
Is Champagne Socialism a contradiction?( Ask Marx or Engels?) everything is a contradiction of something at some part of the spectrum of Human consciousness, Consciousness denoting and encompassing both understanding and misunderstanding. ( see freedom FIghter Vis Terrorist )

'' Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you got till its gone'' Discuss?

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Hey farmer farmer
Put away that DDT now
Give me spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot


Read some philosophy from the fairer sex.


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Themistoclea (or Themistokleia, Greek: Θεμιστόκλεια; also Aristoclea, Theoclea; fl. 6th century BCE) was a priestess at Delphi. According to surviving sources she was Pythagoras’ teacher.[1]
In his biography of Pythagoras in his Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers, Diogenes Laërtius (3rd century CE) cites the statement of Aristoxenus (4th century BCE) that Themistoclea taught Pythagoras his moral doctrines: [2]
Aristoxenus says that Pythagoras got most of his moral doctrines from the Delphic priestess Themistoclea.
Porphyry (233 - 305 CE) calls her Aristoclea (Aristokleia), although there is little doubt that he is referring to the same person.[3] Porphyry repeats the claim that she was the teacher of Pythagoras:[4]
He (Pythagoras) taught much else, which he claimed to have learned from Aristoclea at Delphi.
The 10th-century Suda encyclopedia calls her Theoclea (Theokleia) and states that she was the sister of Pythagoras, but this information probably arises from a corruption and misunderstanding of the passage in Diogenes Laertius.[5]

Plato amongst many other things advocated the Banning and exile of Poets and Poetry and the use of the 

Dorian and Phrygian modes only would be permitted in the republic(.1.)

Ascetic. From Wikepedia.

In the third essay ("What Do Ascetic Ideals Mean?") from his book On the Genealogy of MoralsFriedrich Nietzsche discusses what he terms the "ascetic ideal" and its role in the formulation of morality along with the history of the will. In the essay, Nietzsche describes how such a paradoxical action as asceticism might serve the interests of life: through asceticism one can overcome their desire to perish from pain and despair and attain mastery over oneself. In this way one can express bothressentiment and the will to power. Nietzsche describes the morality of the ascetic priest as characterized by Christianity as one where, finding oneself in pain or despair and desiring to perish from it, the will to live causes one to place oneself in a state of hibernation and denial of the material world in order to minimize that pain and thus preserve life,[21] a technique which Nietzsche locates at the very origin of secular science as well as of religion. He associated the "ascetic ideal" with Christiandecadence. 

(1.) Church Music and Protestantism in Post-Reformation England: Discourses ...
 By Jonathan P. Willis P.14  Plato Repulic Page 100.

This is a later edit it is now today I wrote the main part of the Blog yesterday. Was I confusing Asceticism with Aesthetisism. I think I was although I was aware of the distinction or focus of each I had morphed them into the description of parts of the same thing Beauty in simplicity. My next task is to consider further some of the philosophy of the sophists from where we get our word Sophistication can anything Sophisticated be beautiful or is sophistication merely a justification for compromise and Is sophistry truly at heart a justification of the unjustifiable founded out of necessity or wanton selfish will? In the word sophistry the sophists get a pretty bad billing so I want to take a look at what they were said to be about?

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