More Discusion On A Social Democratic Brexit.

Michael Walker shared a link to the group: Politics in the UK.
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Did nobody pay any attention to Jeremy during his 30 years in Parliament?
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Chris Taverner Oh they did
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Chris Taverner You are really asking why moron tabloids didnt
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Billy Gartside He's a Eurosceptic and has been for the entire duration of his political career.What business does Chuka Umanna have trying to dictate Labour Party policy?Does he think he's the leader?He had his chance and bottled it in 2015.
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Paul Davies THE TELEGRAPH? Bloody hell, no wonder the tory rags on its last legs.
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Raymond Clegg Language Michael and you have Kevin Blackburn posting on here Politics in the UK.Come on
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Raymond Clegg Blackburn needs a yellow Michael.We were only saying last night on another thread how the rules seem to be applied dependent on your political leanings.Blackburn isn't funny,contributes little or nothing of value to the discussion.Yellow at least warranted here.I don't like to get another player booked but come on.
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John Cafc Turner Might I add something here the tories have been split on Europe for years going back to thatchers and Majors government. There leave and remain in both labour. Same with the tories both had leave and remain. Both parties accepted the result Chukka Ummuna obviously hasn't. The same with the liberal Democrats they obviously haven't either. I campaigned to remain but I've accepted that isn't what people voted for. We need a good deal for when leave. Now Michael your trying to mischief make. You have not mentioned that Nicky Morgan and Anna soubry have said Theresa may should resign. I think Theresa may is in a weak position. Never again can the tories mention coalitions of any sort because they have had to do it twice with the liberal Democrats then with the dup.
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Roger Lewis There is a world of a difference between a Labour 2017 manifesto Brexit and a Tory ( Hard Brexit) The EU imposes Neo-Liberal polices on all of its member states, think of it as TTIP for the Single Market members. Austerity is written into the EU constitution by the dictates of the EU COmission and the European Central Bank.
As the UK Has Stirling the worst excesses of The EU Ultra Hayekian Economic Policies which Mr Schoebel and the rest of the EU ( Austerity fetishists) Worship fervently as it is their Ideological muse to do so. Was always a Political choice which was available and not taken by the Tories.
With Brexit Political Choices open up in the realms of Social Democracy outside of the present EU Neo-Liberal Regime, The Tories will understand this as well but of course, they are very keen to Keep the Magic Money Tree a secret by Laughing at the very notion of it.

This Current disagreement between "Progress" Blairites of the Neo-Liberal EU Idiocracy is a symptom of the withdrawal the Austerity Fetishist get when they can not dish out the Pain with the excuse of it's in the rules.

To follow my Arguments does take a little effort, But The minimum effort required is to watch these three clips in the Lexit movie
pay particular attention to the Finnish Shipping Labour Law Case at 47 mins ( Viking Case, Estonian Flag of convenience). Or Train Privatisation in The EU at 16mins. Eu Austerity policies at 22mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq72f81kkM4

For anyone wishing to master all of the Arguments for Reforming the EU and Doing EUROPE as a social democracy and for Operating as a Social Democratic Exemplar outside of EUROPE whilst they continue in the wilderness of the Junker Led Neo-Liberal wilderness I recommend these Articles I have written which have linked to many articles and technical papers which go into detail to the Nth Degree. Richard A North should also be consulted and his Flexit Blog.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../the-eu...

http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../red...

Regarding the EU I have critiqued Mr Junkers 5 presidents report here,

http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../meet...

I have examined and analysed EU democracy Here,

http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../austerit...

The Graphing of Votes made in various EU plebiscites is very informative.I collated and graphed data from Wikipedia to make it.

I am A Philosopher and a Poet and My Effort on the Brexit Referendum was this.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../democrac...
I also Play The Guitar and Write Songs here is my adaptation of a Sex Pistols Classic.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../on-good...

Of all the points I make here the confirmation Bias and Blind Faith in ideology ones are I think the most important. Many-Sidedness is a useful conceptualization of Reality.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../brexit...

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